I didn't realise that, thanks for pointing it out.  My opinion is more based on experience with the game than looking at numbers so take it with a pinch of salt.

One may be fooled by what he thinks is experience. If you use something but don't pay attention to how it exactly worked, you may not notice that it worked worse than you think.
If you use it a hundred times over and never check the details, you may think the ship or ability is good based on experience.

 

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Nano-disassembler: Change Armor reduction from -2/-4/-6 to -1/-3/-5. (More blasphemy. This ability just eats ships as is.)

I disagree with this one. The Space Egg is pretty slow and vulnerable. Apart from colonization, there's got to be a good reason to deploy this thing, and nano-dissassembler is one of them. I would actually go as far as to say that this ability should do some minor (say 10/20/30) damage on the target as well, or perhaps reduce the shield migitation.

Uh... Chris, nano disassemblers already does major damage; at level 3 it kills any unit except capital ships and carriers in a single use!

Main concensus seems to be replacing Scramble Bombers with some kind of interrupt.

Rough idea: Bomber squadron only. Fighters are already dominant early game. Range at 1000/1250/1500. Targets at 3/4/5. Cooldown at 34/30/26. Remember this is per squadron it has out.

Now I gotta figure out how to get this all in-game.

@ovi:

1. Erm... it's at 2/3/4.

2. I like this idea a lot.

3. As complicated as some of the changes  are already, I'm in favor of keeping this relatively simple.

4. *Hits ovi on the head* It's distorting the gravity around itself, not the whole planet. If it were that powerful, they could just use it to wreck an opposing fleet.

5. Right. See above.

6. Cykur explains this perfectly.

7. Interesting idea. Might make them a bit too similar, though.

@Chris: I've only got the changes listed. Off the top of my head, nano does 30 DPS for 20/30/40 seconds. I believe someone found that it killed Destra Crusaders in one shot at level two.

This is all correct, but it only just kills the destra, so if the Advent player has enough hull upgrades researched it survives.  This still shows the immense power of the ability.  Its power against capital ships is formidable, for obvious reasons.  In fact, it remains Vasari's best anti-starbase tool well into the mid-game.  The evacuator is the only cap in the game that can reliably take down a starbase without any support, but I wouldn't attempt it if the starbase has 2 or more health upgrades.

hey, RA, about Concentration Aura, the Rapture & Halcy-

I think that the reason that Concentration Aura ISN'T on the Halcyon is because the Advent are supposed to synergize A LOT. I think anyway. As a result, Rapture+Halcyon=Super Strikecraft of DHUUM! for the enemy to attempt to deal with. The Vertigo ability on the Rapture might even be to impede enemy flak's ability to kill SC.

Yes, vertigo can be (and is) used to help cripple flaks and enable strike craft to do their job.  It also serves as one of the best anti-illum abilities in the mirror match, preventing them from ripping apart your fleet with their usual amazing efficiency.  You can also use it to keep your already tough carriers alive if the enemy gets too close.  I used to go Radiance second in the mirror match to cancel shield restore, but now I go Rapture second for Vertigo.   If the enemy doesn't micro carefully (and most people underestimate or don't even know the power of vertigo) then a fleet of mostly carriers can actually kill all the lrf on their fleet and leave them only with flaks, at which point my disciples can warp in and I dock my fighters to avoid further damage.  Excellent strategy, very much underrated and underused.

@Whiskey

I guess I should mention that I was only speaking if the abilities were to make logical sense as to which capital ship they'r eon. When you think carrier cap, you think, oh...capital support. Hence the anti-strikecraft ability, the extra strikecraft abilitiy...and then.....a firing aura that doesn't affect SC?

I said adt the end of the post that really...putting Vertigo AND concentraiton aura on the same ship would probably be a bad idea balance-wise, but a logical move logic-wise. That was my point.

oh, sorry RA, I hadn't noticed that part. Though you are probably right, I rather like the idea of a super-Advent carrier. Mainly because the super-SC powers of the Advent are the only thing I really like about them.

I also think this is a good idea.

Or allowing purchasing of Level 5 via a second level to the existing techs.  As suggested in this thread comparing the cost of: Purchasing Cap Ship Levels.

Major changes proposed for the next patch. Updated the list even though the patch isn't out yet. I dragged my heels a bit on making that Scramble Bombers replacement on purpose as I suspected they had something in mind already. New ideas welcome.

Hey, my suggestion made it through

This will make the ability equally useful for low level as well as high level Halcyons.  I don't see it replacing the push/amplification combo, but if I ever pick up a second Halcyon I might seriously consider push/anima since I already have amplification.

I like all the TEC changes; far as I'm concerned they're all good as is now (well, cept missile barrage, but that's a discussion worthy of its own thread).

Second Vasari interrupt!  Woot!  Great choice of ship, too; the Kortul is now heavily competing with the Skirantra for my second pick.  Jam weapons is now a very formidable ability; it will no longer be feasible to simply stagger your assault to avoid this ability, making it quite unique amongst strike craft disablers.

Scramble bombers is still, IMO, worthless.  Repair cloud is one of the game's strongest abilities, easily a match (if not the superior) of the legendary shield restore ability.  I'd rather save my antimatter for that.  Scramble bombers has to become "teh shit" to actually compete with it for precious antimatter reserves, much in the same way malice must compete with shield restore.

Nanos nerf was quite reasonable; still one of the game's most fearsome abilities.  Actually I'll have to double-check, level 1 nanos might have been buffed because it can now 1-hit certain types of ships it couldn't before.  Phase out hull is pretty dangerous now. Desolator is fricken awesome, but I don't understand why they didn't touch PMS.  No matter, I'll just stick to how I've always used it; as a massive armoured siege frigate.  Siege platforms got a huge buff here, I can't wait to try them out.

I recently made a post in the Capital Carriers topic about what to do w/the Skirantra's Scramble Bombers ability.  It goes thusly:

Nanite Shockwave: The Skirantra releases a massive discharge of Nanites from its hull, disabling enemy abilities and also collectively linking their fates, causing them to take an equivalent amount of damage spread across the affected ships.  Costs 100 AM.

LEVEL 1: Range - 4000 km, 15% Damage is shared
LEVEL 2: Range - 6000 km, 30% Damage is shared
LEVEL 3:Range - 8000 km, 50% Damage is shared

Just throwing that out there, though I realize that Patch 1.04 is virtually right around the corner, and likely won't get implemented...

The patch is pretty much finalized.  If anything on that list gets changed, it means it'll get delayed.